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Why a discount never goes below what he already paid

Every discount teaches a fan something. If it takes him under what he paid last, the lesson is that paying was a mistake and waiting works.

Chat logic · 4 min read

Say a guy pays $30 for a set on Monday. On Wednesday he says no to something, and the chatter drops the next offer to $15 to save the sale. Maybe it works. It also tells him two things: Monday was a bad deal, and the way to get a good one is to say no.

So we set a hard limit. When she cuts a price, the cut stops at what he last paid. It can't go under it. A fan doesn't get rewarded for holding out, and a fan who paid earlier doesn't get made to feel stupid.

We watched a big spender learn this

This came from a real chat on our own account. A big spender was getting deep cuts on big offers. He worked out that the big numbers came down, so he waited for the cut. He wasn't being difficult. We'd trained him. The fix was to keep his offers near his own level, with no big jumps up and no deep cuts down, so there's nothing to wait for.

That's one guy, so it proves nothing on its own. But look at how much one guy can matter. In our first 8 days on Fanvue, one fan made about 72% of the money, $1,345 of $1,865. When a single fan can be most of your week, teaching him to wait is the most expensive habit on the account.

How the rule works

The case that looks like an exception

To be straight with you: this rule covers discounts and a running session. It doesn't mean every number he ever sees sits above his biggest purchase. That would be a mistake.

Say a guy once paid $100 on a big night. If every later offer had to start there, he'd never buy again. So when a new script starts after a break, it can open below his biggest buy, with a set he's never seen, and climb from there. It's a new climb on new content, nothing he already paid for gets cheaper, and it comes with no discount story. His normal buying level is what counts, and one big night doesn't change that.

The difference matters. "Here's something new for you" keeps his price intact. "Fine, have it for half" tells him the price was never real.

When he says no, you have better moves

A lot of "too expensive" isn't about the price at all. And the guys it is about usually need something other than a cut.

Each of those keeps your price alive for next time, and the next time is where most of the value sits.

What to do about it

In EmpireChat every chat's profile button shows his money and his PPVs, and any block on selling shows up in Chats with its reason and an end time. You can lift it with one click.

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