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Per-fan pricing: why two fans see different prices for one set

In our first 8 days, one fan spent $1,345 and the other 23 buyers spent about $520 between them. No single price fits both.

Chat logic · 4 min read

Same set, two guys, two prices. That's on purpose. A fixed price is too high for the guy who's never bought and far too low for the guy who buys every week. So in EmpireChat, the price he sees depends on him as well as on the set.

Why one price fails

Our first 8 days on Fanvue, from our own account, make the point. 24 buyers spent $1,865 gross. One of them spent $1,345 of that, about 72%. The other 23 spent about $520 between them. It's a small sample, but check your own account. We'd bet on the same shape.

Over the life of this account, 443 people have spent $37,573, which includes months before our AI, sold by humans and another tool. That's roughly $85 a head, and the average hides the real story: one guy just spent more than 15 times that in 8 days.

Pick one price and you lose in both directions. Set it for the careful guy and your big spender pays a fraction of what he'd happily pay. Set it for the big spender and the careful guy never makes a first purchase.

What moves his price

The base comes from your Pricing Ladder: every vault item sits on one of 7 levels, and each level has a price. Videos and bigger sets cost more. Then his own price comes on top, and that's shaped by a few things:

Say a set sits at $20 on your ladder. A guy who's never bought might see it at $14. A guy who buys every week and usually pays $30 might see it at $32. Same set, and each price makes sense for the guy looking at it.

The guardrails

Letting an AI price freely would be a bad idea, so she works inside limits.

A ceiling tied to what he's paid. We learned this one the hard way. A guy who'd only ever made a tiny purchase got offered a huge price on a script step, because a premium video happened to sit there and the ladder priced the video. Nothing about him fit that number. Now the price is capped against the most he's ever paid, so a premium item can't throw a careful guy a price from another planet.

A floor under the content. Your best stuff keeps its value. She can't take a premium video down to pocket change to close a sale.

No jumps for the big spenders. A big spender's offers stay close to his own level. They climb a little above his biggest buy, and that ceiling moves when he buys above it.

No random prices. When we test prices, each guy sits on one price level for good. His chat doesn't jump around from day to day, and the test stays clean.

Your manual price wins. Set a script's price by hand and that exact price goes out, to everyone.

If two fans compare notes

It can happen. Don't let anyone invent a story for it. DM offers are one to one, and a regular gets offered different things than a new guy. A plain answer is fine. What wrecks trust is a made-up reason that falls apart the next day.

Your bigger exposure is a single guy noticing his own prices move the wrong way. That's why a discount doesn't take him below what he paid last. That rule has its own article, and it matters more than the comparison problem.

What to do about it

Where to set it: your 7 prices are in EmpireChat -> Settings -> Pricing Ladder. Open any chat and the profile button shows his money and what to offer him next. Scripts can run on AI prices or on your own.

Let the AI do the chatting

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