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Why we wait before sending the link: our timing numbers

Links sent in the first few messages subscribed less than half as often as later ones in our own data. Then we did the maths on who actually sticks around, and the message count turned out to be only half the story.

Chat logic · 4 min read

The link is the one message that changes what a chat is. Before it, she's talking to him. After it, she's asking him for something. So we stopped guessing about when it should land and looked at our own data.

We pulled 415 social chats and sorted them by how many messages he'd sent when the link went out. It's our own data from one AI model, and it's a small sample. Read it as a direction, not a law.

What the 415 chats showed

Three things stand out. Getting past the first few messages more than doubles the rate. After that the line goes flat, so stretching the wait buys you almost nothing. And the worst number on the list has nothing to do with the clock. A chat that stays friendly barely converts at any point.

Waiting has a price too

Most guys don't stick around. About 40% of chats reach 8 messages and about 33% reach 10. So every extra message you wait, you're talking to fewer people.

Run it on paper. Out of 100 chats, 40 get to message 8. At 7% that's about 3 subscribers. Send the link to all 100 early at 3.1% and you also get about 3. On subscribers alone, it's close to a tie.

There's a catch in the other direction as well. A guy who stays for 7 messages was keener to begin with, so part of the jump from 3.1% to 7% is him and has nothing to do with timing. The data can't separate the two.

What it does show: waiting didn't cost us subscribers. That matters, because waiting has upsides the subscriber count doesn't see.

Why we still wait

Mood beats the message count

Go back to that 0.9%. It's the number we'd put on the wall. Time alone doesn't warm a chat up. A guy can send 20 messages about his car and never be close to paying for anything.

So EmpireBot looks at two things: has he talked enough, and has the chat actually warmed up. The message count is the backstop. The better moment is when he's clearly enjoying himself and wants more than a chat can give him. The link goes out then, with one warm line, and it feels like the next step instead of a sales message.

When he asks, send it

Everything above is about her choosing the moment. If he asks "do you have a page?" or "where can I see more?", he's chosen it for her. Send the link right away. Making a guy wait after he asked is the one timing mistake with no upside at all.

What to do with this

In EmpireBot this runs by itself. She reads how the chat is going, holds the link until it fits, and sends it straight away when he asks. You fill in her profile and connect Fanvue.

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